Joshua who?

December 15, 2008 by  

Joshua Kerr - Scammer?

[upate 17-Dec]While I think Ben (comments below) went about things in entirely the wrong way, I am inclined to believe that the use of Wolfmother’s name in promoting this concert was unintentional and not driven by either Ben or Josh. I am however going to leave the full post below because otherwise the comments and the whole situation would be difficult to understand. I hope that not too many fans were dissapointed after attending the show and wish Josh a speedy recovery.

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Well it seems more and more certain that Mr Joshua Kerr was at the very least stretching the truth considerably when claiming he was lined up to be Wolfmother’s new bass player before being hit by a car while riding his bike.

I can confirm that Andrew jammed with a lot of potential bass players while in LA recently. One of them ended up doing a couple of weeks of demoing and such, but unfortunately I do not know how that was left. What I do know however is that his name was not Joshua Kerr! Joshua may have auditioned for the band and may even have got a callback, but he certainly was not in any way confirmed as a band member.

Reports also indicate that the extent of his accident and medical bills are exaggerated.

So Joshua Kerr, shame on you for stretching the truth on many fronts in the aim of raising some cash. And if any of the other bands knew this was the case, shame on you too.

Comments

66 Responses to “Joshua who?”

  1. Ka-Blamo! on December 24th, 2008 6:05 am

    All the proof is right here! Apparently there was a news report!
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4pXfHLUlZf4

  2. Rookie on December 24th, 2008 6:39 am

    I think I’ve been able to consider some of these facts here pretty well. I’m going to give a brief summary on the points, just for argument’s sake.

    – Chimaera’s article is, for the most part, too ambiguous for Ben to make any successful lawsuit. Also, since International laws are (I assume) in place, the case would most likely be too expensive to be efficient, or even rewarding to a reasonable stand-point. If Josh is the “standup guy with a huge heart” whom Ben claims him to be, then, depending on the capital needed and the overall projected winnings of the case for Josh, the entire case would go against this statement, and only make Josh more shameful.

    – Accusations against Chimaera can only be directed to the first and final paragraph.

    —In the first, Chimaera states that Joshua was “claiming he was lined up to be Wolfmother’s new bass player….” Chimaera can take blame for this, only through stating, unknowingly, a false statement.

    —In the final paragraph, Chimaera puts shame to Joshua for “stretching the truth.” Chimaera, who (I believe) privately owns this site, can speak his mind. According to freedom of speech, which I imagine the International laws in place delegate to the people, allows for a private citizen to say what he/she wants.

    In all honesty, I don’t see why Ben would create such a fuss over this. As stated by a commenter before me, the name Wolfmother, although falsely used, may have brought more attendees to the Benefit show. If anything, Ben should, in my opinion, recount for his aggressiveness and legal threats. However, this doesn’t leave Chimaera completely in the clear. I believe Chimaera should still investigate further into the sources for this information, and if proven wrong, despite having erroneous information, apologize for putting Joshua Kerr to shame.

    Having said this, I still think certain parties are overreacting. I can understand Ben’s desire to protect Joshua’s name, and I can understand Chimaera’s (as well as most of the rest of the forum’s) feeling of the need to defend this forum and himself/Chimaera. I cannot, however, fathom any lack of remorse on Ben’s part for having brought a case on such a simple, easily forgiven matter.

  3. wooglewaggle on December 24th, 2008 8:55 am

    Well slandering someone’s name IS illegal, it’s one of the exceptions of freedom of speech, and we honestly don’t know for sure what Josh’s involvement was in stretching that truth. Everything else you said was a point excellently made Rookie.

  4. Jimmy on December 24th, 2008 9:32 am

    Ok what? Slandering someones named is not illegal.. That would mean that a lot of people would have been arrested or fined.. It may be a civil case though but only if the other person, in this case joshua, lost his job because of the slander.. anyways.. American laws don’t cover chim in the uk.. Plus what has chim done wrong?? He’s reporting to us, what other bigger website have said.. Nothing wrong there.. Take it up with LA weekly..

  5. wooglewaggle on December 24th, 2008 11:37 am

    Slandering someones name is illegal conduct under both State and Federal law Rook. The government won’t go around searching for slanders and fining people, that would be impractical, but you can definitely sue and win a case on those grounds. Damages don’t have to be done prior either, he wouldn’t have had to lose his job. You are right about international, I’m not so sure how it would work overseas.

  6. wooglewaggle on December 24th, 2008 11:45 am

    Also…

    the thing is, I don’t think slandering took place here. Chimaera didn’t really say anything seriously bad about Josh. The only thing that I had a problem with was when you said a private citizen could say whatever they want. This just isn’t true, even Freedom of Speech has it’s limits.

  7. wooglewaggle on December 24th, 2008 11:53 am

    er woopsy, that was Jimmy not Rook.

  8. Jimmy Parker on December 24th, 2008 7:04 pm

    haha slander of someones name isn’t illegal in the UK as far as i am aware of… you can get sued for slander but that doesn’t make it illegal.. if you say that slander is illegal.. then alot of newspapers would not publish what they do.. and slander didn’t take place here at all… well maybe from a few of the commenters but thats anothing thing… slander can also be used in the term, ‘i will sue you’ and then you don’t (thats from a law lesson that i was not paying attention too :P) but as far as i am aware, bad mouthing someones rep isn’t illegal :S how can it be anyways :S you are allowed to think what you want… plus for slander to happen.. you need to effect a persons carreer or reputation in order for you to even have a legal case what so ever…. and yes its jimmy :P haha

  9. wooglewaggle on December 24th, 2008 11:41 pm

    Slandering is more then just “bad mouthing” someone’s rep, slandering is intentionally claiming that someone did something that they didn’t do in order to detriment their name. I highly doubt that it is legal to publish a story in the paper claiming that one of your politicians are involved in a prostitution ring if they really have nothing to do with it. It would be alright to say there is suspicion, but to slate it as fact, if that is truly legal over there then I am glad I don’t live in the UK…

  10. wooglewaggle on December 24th, 2008 11:46 pm

    and as I said, I really don’t think slander took place here. I never said it did. All I am saying is that freedom of speech isn’t limitless That is all.

  11. Silky on December 25th, 2008 11:55 pm

    Merry Christmas!!! xoxo

  12. James Parker on December 27th, 2008 11:18 pm

    haha why on earth should expressing your opinion over someone or bitching, as it can also been known, about someone be illegal? and why are you acting like its the most vital law? a society with out a slander law a bad society? i’m sorry but clearly you believed slander happened here or you wouldn’t be carrying on insisting that its illegal.. slander is known as a CIVIL WRONG! thats not criminally wrong… Slander is barely nothing more than verbal.. hense the ‘im going to sue you’. LIBEL is whats known as more illegal.. as its written.. however both will end with a civil case, which is claiment v defendant, instead of criminal which is state vs defendant..
    i agree freedom of speech has its limits.. however there is a difference between something being illegal and civil wrongs.. this is an example.. you can get sued for slander/libels but not community service or prison sentence…

  13. Broseph on December 29th, 2008 12:53 am

    So would this be an example of slander?

    Josh and Ben commit acts of beastiality with Wolves, so that they can have a Wolfmother for their half human, half wolf offspring.

    or would this?

    Ben gives it to Josh in the pooper until his hoop is chapped and dry.

  14. openfire08 on December 29th, 2008 11:30 pm

    hahahaha
    well lets hope the money this mr josh kerr scammed out of people goes towards some bass guitar lessons, cause from what i heard he’s pretty terrible on the bass!!! and u looks wierd!

    merry christmas people

  15. Silky on January 1st, 2009 1:42 am

    HAPPY NEW YEARS!!

  16. Wolf luvs l.axx on January 22nd, 2009 10:43 pm

    wow what a loser this guy is….. I hear on the music grape vine a band in Los Angeles he was playing with just got rid of him due to his lies…… how to make friends by J.Kerr on sale now hahahaha!

    new drummer looks cool!!!

    s.j xxx

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